Today at 11 am ET, I chatted with Erica Sipes and others about how individual musicians can use audience development concepts and ideas to build their audiences. We mainly touched upon the 4 C’s of audience development: Connection, Community, Collaboration, and Caring.
Below is the full conversation. I hope you can join us next time, and please feel free to add a comment on this blog or on Twitter using #auddev as the hashtag.
Thank you to those who participated and will participate by viewing the conversation here.
Cheers to happy and loyal audiences,
Shoshana
@AudienceDevSpec Good morning and welcome to
#auddev chat. Today we will be speaking w/ @ericasipes about building audience for individ musicians.
Thu Apr 28 15:00:50 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63618680805785600 – #38
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@AudienceDevSpec Hi @ericasipes
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Thu Apr 28 15:00:58 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63618715161346049 – #39
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@ericasipes @AudienceDevSpec Hello there. Thanks for setting this up.
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Thu Apr 28 15:01:11 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63618769603407872 – #40
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@AudienceDevSpec @ericasipes Can you tell us about that
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Thu Apr 28 15:01:52 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63618944044515329 – #41
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@AudienceDevSpec I would like to start off by saying that @ericasipes told me she was mobbed at a grocery store.
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Thu Apr 28 15:02:11 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63619022163427330 – #42
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@hollywoodlvwork Morning Tweeple! Follow @audiencedevspec. They’re chatting about developing audiences for artists this morning on Twitter.
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Thu Apr 28 15:02:22 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63619069034774528 – #43
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@ericasipes @AudienceDevSpec Sure. I guess I can just start by sharing w/folks that I’m a freelance musician living in a small town…
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Thu Apr 28 15:02:29 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63619095643435008 – #44
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@AudienceDevSpec Oh yes, introduce yourself. ;O)
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Thu Apr 28 15:02:52 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63619193211338752 – #45
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@ericasipes So in our area, audiences for classical music, especially, can b quite hard 2 come by without trying.
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Thu Apr 28 15:03:03 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63619240535658496 – #46
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@ericasipes And I live in the foothills of Appalachia where classical music is even harder 2 come by as I’ve recently discovered.
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Thu Apr 28 15:03:31 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63619358513045506 – #47
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@CMCNational The conversation is just starting up with @AudienceDevSpec. Follow
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Thu Apr 28 15:03:43 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63619409062793216 – #48
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@ericasipes So I’ve been working hard the past 3 years or so, to find a way 2 become a part of the local community as a classical musician.
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Thu Apr 28 15:04:01 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63619482966433792 – #49
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@AudienceDevSpec So what type of things are you doing to connect with your community?
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Thu Apr 28 15:04:30 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63619603292635136 – #50
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@ericasipes It’s taken a while but it’s been an exciting process & one that yes, now has me being mobbed at the grocery store at times. 😉
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Thu Apr 28 15:04:57 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63619719885893632 – #51
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@AudienceDevSpec Local celebrity!
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Thu Apr 28 15:05:18 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63619805378396161 – #52
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@ericasipes I mentioned a while back that I have made it a point to give a little all the time…
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Thu Apr 28 15:05:37 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63619887444135937 – #53
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@AudienceDevSpec Yes, so in giving you are connecting. Can you give examples?
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Thu Apr 28 15:06:06 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63620009167044608 – #54
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@ericasipes …which means I choose to donate my time and energy in different ways in order to make it clear 2 the community…
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Thu Apr 28 15:06:12 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63620034517417984 – #55
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@ericasipes …that I’m not just a musician for myself. That I believe classical music has a place anywhere, anytime.
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Thu Apr 28 15:06:47 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63620181263519744 – #56
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@ericasipes One example is playing chamber music in the community, especially with “amateurs.”
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Thu Apr 28 15:07:21 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63620322804498432 – #57
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@AudienceDevSpec Are these recital events or something else?
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Thu Apr 28 15:07:45 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63620423463604224 – #58
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@ericasipes @AudienceDevSpec Not performances usually tho sometimes it leads 2 that. They’re like chamber music jams, usually at some1’s house.
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Thu Apr 28 15:08:43 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63620666171211776 – #59
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@AudienceDevSpec Jams! I love that. How many people participate?
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Thu Apr 28 15:09:20 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63620819791785984 – #60
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@ericasipes @ericasipes At first the other musicians couldn’t believe that I would be willing to do this with them but I kept telling them…
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Thu Apr 28 15:09:25 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63620841346301952 – #61
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@AudienceDevSpec @AtlantaSymphony We are having an
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Thu Apr 28 15:09:49 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63620941783105536 – #62
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@ericasipes …that I love music…why wouldn’t I want to have a chance to just “play?”
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Thu Apr 28 15:09:50 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63620947688693760 – #63
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@ericasipes I was talking about doing this w/a professional colleague & she said, “So you of course coach them, right?”
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Thu Apr 28 15:10:17 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63621061291425792 – #64
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@ericasipes And I had to chuckle. That’s completely the opposite of what I believe in in situations like this.
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Thu Apr 28 15:10:37 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63621142342152193 – #65
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@samgrinsell #auddev that sounds wonderful @ericasipes and so like the salon roots of much classical music 🙂
Thu Apr 28 15:11:02 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63621247816314880 – #66
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@ericasipes And now, after doing this for 4 years, all those people that I’ve played with make a point of attending my performances
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Thu Apr 28 15:11:09 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63621279420391424 – #67
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@ericasipes …whenever they can.
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Thu Apr 28 15:11:16 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63621308587589633 – #68
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@alanayu Classical music has to try harder: a) it doesn’t have the beat and rhythm of pop; b) the performance environment is too austere.
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Thu Apr 28 15:11:32 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63621373049835520 – #69
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@ericasipes @samgrinsell Right, exactly! And it’s making music among the people which I find so much more enjoyable in some ways…
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Thu Apr 28 15:11:48 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63621443547697152 – #70
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@ericasipes @samgrinsell …no pressure 😉
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Thu Apr 28 15:11:55 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63621473042055169 – #71
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@AudienceDevSpec Classical music did use to be a community activity. We do need to go back to our roots!
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Thu Apr 28 15:12:06 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63621516188856320 – #72
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@ericasipes Exactly! RT @AudienceDevSpec: Classical music did use to be a community activity. We do need to go back to our roots!
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Thu Apr 28 15:12:17 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63621562133250048 – #73
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@AudienceDevSpec So, can you tell us how many people usually jam? @ericasipes
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Thu Apr 28 15:12:36 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63621645587329024 – #74
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@AudienceDevSpec I want to get a visual of it! :O)
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Thu Apr 28 15:12:48 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63621694841036800 – #75
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@ericasipes @AudienceDevSpec Usually it’s just a quartet of people but we’ve had larger ones in celebration of a composer’s b-day.
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Thu Apr 28 15:13:10 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63621787778416640 – #76
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@gaspsiagore Great conversation going on at hashtag
#auddev – so sorry I’m frantically busy at the moment… I’m so passionate about this; keep tweeting!
Thu Apr 28 15:13:28 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63621859790434304 – #77
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@alanayu We need to reduce the perceived “snobbery” classical.
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Thu Apr 28 15:13:29 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63621866283212800 – #78
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@AudienceDevSpec @ericasipes What fun! Are there people hanging out and listening too?
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Thu Apr 28 15:13:39 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63621907165085696 – #79
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@ericasipes @AudienceDevSpec Larger ones will involve maybe 10 or 12 people total and there will be different groups going on …
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Thu Apr 28 15:13:49 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63621951700217857 – #80
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@ericasipes @AudienceDevSpec …at once.
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Thu Apr 28 15:14:01 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63621998550585344 – #81
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@ericasipes @AudienceDevSpec There’s always food involved too which is a plus. 😉
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Thu Apr 28 15:14:14 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63622055479885825 – #82
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@ericasipes Amen! RT @alanayu: We need to reduce the perceived “snobbery” classical.
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Thu Apr 28 15:14:31 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63622123834449920 – #83
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@AudienceDevSpec Food and music are a great combo!
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Thu Apr 28 15:14:36 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63622146353659904 – #84
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@ericasipes Another thing I do is regularly put together performances at the local retirement community.
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Thu Apr 28 15:14:57 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63622234169815040 – #85
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@samgrinsell While at the same time not talking down to people RT @alanayu: We need to reduce the perceived “snobbery” classical.
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Thu Apr 28 15:15:24 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63622349508968448 – #86
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@ericasipes I perform for free but it is so very worth it. That’s what has gotten me my grocery store mobs 😉
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Thu Apr 28 15:15:27 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63622362255458304 – #87
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@AudienceDevSpec @ericasipes How many do you normally do?
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Thu Apr 28 15:15:28 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63622364260347904 – #88
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@ericasipes On senior citizen day – watch out! LOL!! They all know my name & will stop me in the aisles & in the parking lot.
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Thu Apr 28 15:15:52 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63622466873991168 – #89
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@MazzaClarinet @audiencedevspec @ericasipes Brilliant idea – thanks!
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Thu Apr 28 15:15:58 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63622492773826560 – #90
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@ericasipes Plus they now try to make a point of getting their shuttle 2 take residents to my performances.
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Thu Apr 28 15:16:12 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63622547618533376 – #91
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@ericasipes When I first started doing this, they asked me if I could play 4 a holiday party there but they said they couldn’t …
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Thu Apr 28 15:16:39 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63622660898291712 – #92
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@AudienceDevSpec Everything that you do that connects to your community will add up!
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Thu Apr 28 15:16:54 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63622727717756928 – #93
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@ericasipes …pay me and feed me b/c funds were short. I told them I’d prefer to eat a meal with them.
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Thu Apr 28 15:16:59 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63622747451965440 – #94
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@AudienceDevSpec Having dinner with people is a great
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Thu Apr 28 15:17:20 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63622834001416195 – #95
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@ericasipes Well that was the right answer, I think. They were so tickled that I didn’t want to just play, grab my money, & run.
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Thu Apr 28 15:17:22 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63622844734636032 – #96
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@ericasipes Then at the end of the evening, they handed me a check.
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Thu Apr 28 15:17:41 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63622923482693633 – #97
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@AudienceDevSpec It is amazing how volunteering can turn into so much more.
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Thu Apr 28 15:18:10 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63623044177997825 – #98
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@ericasipes So that’s proof that even when you give, there is almost always some sort of payment, even if not always money.
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Thu Apr 28 15:18:15 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63623067460583424 – #99
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@ericasipes Yes! And if you like food, it’s even better 🙂 RT @AudienceDevSpec: Having dinner with people is a great
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Thu Apr 28 15:18:45 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63623192345985024 – #100
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@ericasipes Plus it’s really rewarding! RT @AudienceDevSpec: It is amazing how volunteering can turn into so much more.
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Thu Apr 28 15:18:59 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63623250239954944 – #101
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@AudienceDevSpec I was asking @ericasipes how many a year for the retirement concerts to get an idea.
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Thu Apr 28 15:19:20 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63623338412613632 – #102
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@ericasipes @AudienceDevSpec I do probably 4-5 during the main school year. This summer I’m hoping to do some regularly too.
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Thu Apr 28 15:20:00 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63623505996025856 – #103
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@alanayu In pop, live performances are overtaking recorded sales. How do we get excitement back into classical?
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Thu Apr 28 15:20:00 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63623506344153088 – #104
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@ericasipes I think as musicians, esp. in a small community, it’s also important 2 b aware of the economic situation folks are in.
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Thu Apr 28 15:20:37 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63623659100700674 – #105
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@AudienceDevSpec @ericasipes Do you use these as practice concerts for others that you have booked?
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Thu Apr 28 15:20:46 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63623700087447552 – #106
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@ericasipes Both really. RT @AudienceDevSpec: @ericasipes Do you use these as practice concerts for others that you have booked?
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Thu Apr 28 15:21:03 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63623770312679425 – #107
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@ericasipes @AudienceDevSpec It’s a great way 2 try out new pieces but I also try 2 incorporate music that I know they’ll enjoy.
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Thu Apr 28 15:21:25 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63623860716716033 – #108
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@gettweets Great cellist @albancello has a very successful initiative: he came to CLE as guest soloist & played at local grocery stores!
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Thu Apr 28 15:21:25 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63623864088920064 – #109
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@ericasipes @gettweets What a great idea! Cello is perfect for that.
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Thu Apr 28 15:21:56 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63623993046999040 – #110
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@MazzaClarinet @alanayu I’d suggest by being more spontaneous and willing to give
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Thu Apr 28 15:22:08 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63624043588370432 – #111
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@AudienceDevSpec In the past, I have had to pull teeth to get indiv musicians to volunteer. There is a disconnect.
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Thu Apr 28 15:22:24 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63624109652852737 – #112
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@ericasipes Many of the young musicians I work with belong to small farming families who have a strong inclination to barter…
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Thu Apr 28 15:22:59 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63624256877105153 – #113
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@AudienceDevSpec Great idea! RT @gettweets: Great cellist @albancello he came to CLE as guest soloist & played at local grocery stores!
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Thu Apr 28 15:23:07 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63624288556687360 – #114
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@ericasipes I’ve learned the value and joy in doing this. This summer, I will b getting fresh organic produce from families I’ve worked with.
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Thu Apr 28 15:23:43 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63624439815880704 – #115
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@AudienceDevSpec @ericasipes You have also been blogging about practicing w/ windows open and such…
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Thu Apr 28 15:23:44 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63624443322314753 – #116
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@ericasipes @AudienceDevSpec Yes, you’re right. That’s a really easy thing to do! And I make a point to play, if I can, whenever/wherever…
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Thu Apr 28 15:24:20 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63624594824765441 – #117
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@ericasipes @AudienceDevSpec …I spot a piano.
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Thu Apr 28 15:24:33 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63624650483183617 – #118
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@AudienceDevSpec @ericasipes Do people stop to listen?
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Thu Apr 28 15:24:38 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63624671064629248 – #119
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@MazzaClarinet @ericasipes Love that idea too – no tax liability – lol!
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Thu Apr 28 15:24:57 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63624750722859009 – #120
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@AudienceDevSpec One thing I mentioned before – there are usually pianos at Airports. ;O)
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Thu Apr 28 15:25:07 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63624794955988992 – #121
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@ericasipes @AudienceDevSpec Oh my goodness, yes! But I have to make sure that I look up now and then so they know I’m approachable.
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Thu Apr 28 15:25:12 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63624816099459073 – #122
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@ericasipes Wow, I didn’t know that! RT @AudienceDevSpec: One thing I mentioned before – there are usually pianos at Airports. ;O)
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Thu Apr 28 15:25:24 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63624862740119552 – #123
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@AudienceDevSpec @ericasipes I noticed one in Portland and Chicago.
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Thu Apr 28 15:25:47 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63624959595003904 – #125
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@ericasipes I think it’s important to realize that people generally are attracted to music & if you give it 2 them, they’ll listen.
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Thu Apr 28 15:26:12 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63625067753504769 – #126
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@AudienceDevSpec Let’s switch gears and talk about collaborating with other musicians for a bit.
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Thu Apr 28 15:26:22 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63625106773123072 – #127
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@ericasipes What I’ve discovered in talking to many musicians is that they don’t want 2 give anything away for free.
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Thu Apr 28 15:26:31 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63625143724949505 – #128
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@ericasipes I understand that, but I do think there needs 2 b a balance if we want 2 attract new people.
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Thu Apr 28 15:26:49 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63625222418468864 – #129
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@ericasipes Great. RT @AudienceDevSpec: Let’s switch gears and talk about collaborating with other musicians for a bit.
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Thu Apr 28 15:27:01 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63625273630916608 – #130
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@AudienceDevSpec This is a challenge. However think of it this way, playing for free is free advertising!
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Thu Apr 28 15:27:16 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63625333798223872 – #131
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@ericasipes Exactly! RT @AudienceDevSpec: This is a challenge. However think of it this way, playing for free is free advertising!
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Thu Apr 28 15:27:31 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63625396385619969 – #134
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@ericasipes @AudienceDevSpec And I’ve rarely felt taken advantage of, for what it’s worth.
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Thu Apr 28 15:27:58 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63625511980646400 – #135
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@AudienceDevSpec #auddev is now in chat mode. Try not to spam with advertising. Thanks! :O)
Thu Apr 28 15:28:10 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63625562480054272 – #136
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@ericasipes Did you have a question about collaborating then? I’m ready 🙂
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Thu Apr 28 15:28:49 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63625723054788608 – #137
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@eusebius24 @AudienceDevSpec Toronto (Pearson) has/had one in Montreal departure area
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Thu Apr 28 15:29:14 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63625830131183617 – #138
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@MaestrosLover as someone who is not from a classical music background I’m finding
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Thu Apr 28 15:29:17 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63625841027985408 – #139
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@AudienceDevSpec @ericasipes Yes, I was wondering what types of collaborations you do with other musicians?
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Thu Apr 28 15:29:30 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63625895541358593 – #141
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@ericasipes @AudienceDevSpec Hmmm…I mostly work with young musicians b/c that’s a particular passion of mine. But I also work w/”pros” too.
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Thu Apr 28 15:30:04 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63626040257429504 – #142
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@VaTenor @ericasipes: @AudienceDevSpec: collaborating
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Thu Apr 28 15:30:24 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63626123191394305 – #143
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@AudienceDevSpec @ericasipes Any unusual types of collaborations?
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Thu Apr 28 15:30:27 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63626136734797825 – #144
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@AudienceDevSpec @VaTenor Yes, another challenge, I’ll call it challenge number 2: collaborating instead of competing!
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Thu Apr 28 15:31:00 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63626272454090752 – #145
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@ericasipes @AudienceDevSpec I collaborate with my husband. 😛 Just kidding. I’m not sure of anything unusual. I’m thinking…
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Thu Apr 28 15:31:03 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63626286555348992 – #146
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@AudienceDevSpec There are many ways to collaborate: programming, marketing, fundraising, outreach events…
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Thu Apr 28 15:31:35 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63626422375301120 – #147
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@ericasipes @AudienceDevSpec I am the pianist for our church’s youth choir…very important to me & another way 2 work w/kids…
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Thu Apr 28 15:31:52 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63626493250646016 – #148
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@gettweets @AudienceDevSpec It’s a very important concept because he reached a side of the community which needs to attend concerts more.
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Thu Apr 28 15:31:55 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63626503161786368 – #149
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@AudienceDevSpec @ericasipes Do you invite other musicians to your retirement center concerts?
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Thu Apr 28 15:32:04 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63626541623549952 – #150
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@MazzaClarinet @ericasipes Although equally I think it’s important that as musicians we shouldn’t expect to collaborate with colleagues for free 😉
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Thu Apr 28 15:32:13 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63626580118867968 – #151
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@ericasipes My husband and I are also very big on performing for school kids.
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Thu Apr 28 15:32:17 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63626595079954432 – #152
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@AudienceDevSpec @ericasipes That’s a great community collaboration! 2 C’s at the same time!
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Thu Apr 28 15:32:28 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63626643478020096 – #153
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@adrenalsenorita @VaTenor @ericasipes @AudienceDevSpec
#auddev my experience has been totally the opposite! people love to collaborate in the new music scene
Thu Apr 28 15:32:29 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63626648397950977 – #154
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@ericasipes @AudienceDevSpec Yes, both 2 play and just listen.
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Thu Apr 28 15:32:33 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63626662075572224 – #155
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@AudienceDevSpec @adrenalsenorita @VaTenor @ericasipes Curious! The new music scene.
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Thu Apr 28 15:33:13 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63626832142012416 – #156
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@ericasipes I am also working with the conductor of the college orchestra 2 get at least one concert a year scheduled during the daytime…
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Thu Apr 28 15:33:15 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63626840539013120 – #157
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@ericasipes …so that families w/young children can attend. The closest orchestra is an hour away otherwise . 😛
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Thu Apr 28 15:33:47 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63626975507513346 – #158
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@AudienceDevSpec Colleges can be a fantastic place to show all 4 C’s of
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Thu Apr 28 15:33:54 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63627004326588416 – #159
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@ericasipes Absolutely! RT @AudienceDevSpec: Colleges can be a fantastic place to show all 4 C’s of
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Thu Apr 28 15:34:18 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63627104302010368 – #160
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@AudienceDevSpec @ericasipes Sounds like there is a major opp. w/ orchestra not being immediately accessible.
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Thu Apr 28 15:34:27 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63627140213649409 – #161
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@adrenalsenorita @AudienceDevSpec
#auddev the new classical scene has been built upon composers and performers pooling resources to develop audiences.
Thu Apr 28 15:34:32 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63627162024034304 – #162
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@VaTenor @mazzaclarinet Agree… on not collab 4 free RT : @ericasipes Tough Lesson for most though.
#auddev Many ways 2 quantify value other than $
Thu Apr 28 15:34:43 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63627211198046208 – #164
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@ericasipes @AudienceDevSpec Yes, definitely. And unfortunately football is more visible in the college than the orchestra.
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Thu Apr 28 15:35:10 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63627320929427456 – #165
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@AudienceDevSpec @adrenalsenorita That’s fantastic!
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Thu Apr 28 15:35:18 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63627357382131712 – #166
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@ericasipes @AudienceDevSpec I’d like to raise the orchestra’s visibility.
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Thu Apr 28 15:35:22 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63627373123338240 – #167
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@ericasipes @MazzaClarinet It’s hard for me 2 decide when 2 charge, when not 2 charge. A delicate issue.
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Thu Apr 28 15:36:20 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63627616262950912 – #168
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@AudienceDevSpec Yes, there is another opp. for individ. musicians to help out the orchestras and vice versa.
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Thu Apr 28 15:36:25 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63627638576660480 – #169
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@ericasipes @MazzaClarinet And one that I’m not so good at 😛
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Thu Apr 28 15:36:31 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63627663515992064 – #170
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@DaCapoInstitute Community Music 2 RT @ericasipes: @AudienceDevSpec: place to show all 4
#auddev: Connect, Collaborate, Community, Caring
http://dacapovaorg
Thu Apr 28 15:36:43 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63627712643858433 – #171
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@AudienceDevSpec So perhaps collaborating with an orchestra and having them share your indiv. concerts as part of the partnership.
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Thu Apr 28 15:36:59 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63627780604178433 – #172
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@ericasipes @AudienceDevSpec Right. I actually play in the orchestra which some colleagues don’t get. Why would I want to do that, after all?
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Thu Apr 28 15:37:25 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63627888313905152 – #173
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@AudienceDevSpec @ericasipes More connections and opportunities can occur.
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Thu Apr 28 15:37:55 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63628012846989312 – #174
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@ericasipes @AudienceDevSpec But I think the students like having some professionals there. It brings in a musical feeling that is natural…
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Thu Apr 28 15:38:00 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63628037131993088 – #175
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@AudienceDevSpec @ericasipes I”d like to talk about the feeling you get when playing for one of your giving concerts. Does it feel diff. ?
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Thu Apr 28 15:38:40 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63628205189382144 – #176
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@ericasipes …and that is hard 4 them 2 do themselves. They’re just learning, we live & breathe it. My hope is that it rubs off in some way.
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Thu Apr 28 15:38:46 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63628230325837824 – #177
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@ericasipes Yes! RT @AudienceDevSpec: @ericasipes More connections and opportunities can occur.
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 15:39:12 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63628338354327553 – #178
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@AudienceDevSpec I’m reaching for getting back to the joy and I have a sneaky feeling that musicians may feel it maybe more so when volunteering.
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Thu Apr 28 15:39:18 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63628361842429953 – #179
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@ericasipes @AudienceDevSpec Oh yes, definitely. First of all, I know that the audience is there to enjoy, not 2 criticize.
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Thu Apr 28 15:39:45 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63628474908286976 – #180
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@AudienceDevSpec This would be challenge
#3: Getting back to the joy and passion of playing.
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Thu Apr 28 15:39:55 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63628518331924480 – #181
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@ericasipes They have nothing 2 lose since they didn’t pay to come and hear me play. As a result, I am much more free…
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Thu Apr 28 15:40:11 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63628584417370112 – #182
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@DaCapoInstitute Amazingly different. 4 us @audiencedevspec: @ericasipes feeling you get when playing for one of your giving concerts.
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Thu Apr 28 15:40:18 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63628613228036096 – #183
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@AudienceDevSpec The audience can feel if you have the joy or not. Without the passion, and only playing for a paycheck, the aud. can sense this.
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Thu Apr 28 15:40:21 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63628628788908032 – #184
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@ericasipes …and can truly enjoy the whole process. I’m also much more spontaneous & will share different stories that r often personal.
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Thu Apr 28 15:40:47 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63628737106817024 – #185
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@AudienceDevSpec @DaCapoInstitute Can you give us details?
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Thu Apr 28 15:40:48 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63628742278397952 – #186
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@ericasipes I think they like that. Kind of like a drama in the middle of a concert 😉
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Thu Apr 28 15:41:02 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63628797471240192 – #187
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@DaCapoInstitute AGREE RT @audiencedevspec: audience can feel if you have the joy Without the passion, playing for a paycheck, the aud. can sense
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Thu Apr 28 15:41:34 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63628932083228672 – #188
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@AudienceDevSpec @ericasipes Does this experience (and love the drama) help translate into your paid gigs?
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Thu Apr 28 15:41:35 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63628935665160192 – #189
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@MazzaClarinet @ericasipes @audiencedevspec Then wouldn’t a way forward be joining football and music together?
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 15:41:43 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63628971547439104 – #190
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@MazzaClarinet @ericasipes I struggle with that one too 🙂
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Thu Apr 28 15:42:17 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63629113994387456 – #191
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@ericasipes @AudienceDevSpec Yes. Because now that I’m in touch with what most people want when they hear a concert, I don’t have…
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Thu Apr 28 15:42:21 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63629132059258880 – #192
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@AudienceDevSpec @MazzaClarinet @ericasipes We found that people that attend football, a higher % than you think enjoy arts.
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Thu Apr 28 15:42:34 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63629185469530113 – #193
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@ericasipes …those voices in my head that torment me w/thoughts that musical critics might have.
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Thu Apr 28 15:42:52 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63629261851987968 – #194
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@ericasipes I am also much more in touch with how much joy music can bring to people, even when it’s not perfect (which mine never is!)
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Thu Apr 28 15:43:20 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63629376197103616 – #195
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@MazzaClarinet @ericasipes And it makes students feel valued I would imagine @audiencedevspec
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Thu Apr 28 15:43:43 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63629472712228864 – #196
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@AudienceDevSpec If any musicians have ideas for connecting with your community, please do
#auddev tag!
Thu Apr 28 15:43:49 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63629498582712320 – #197
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@DaCapoInstitute Service approach include audience as player in the process. Creates community literally. RT @audiencedevspec:
#auddev #perspective
Thu Apr 28 15:43:53 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63629515435425793 – #198
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@ericasipes Yay! RT @AudienceDevSpec: @MazzaClarinet @ericasipes We found people that attend football, a higher % than u think enjoy arts.
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 15:44:08 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63629579885096960 – #199
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@AudienceDevSpec @DaCapoInstitute You touched on a very important aspect, having the audience as player in the process.
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Thu Apr 28 15:44:26 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63629653591592960 – #200
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@samgrinsell #auddev as someone who does enjoy football (soccer if you must!) & classical music I’m afraid I really would just laugh at any combination
Thu Apr 28 15:44:27 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63629660587692032 – #201
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@ericasipes @AudienceDevSpec Gives me something 2 think about certainly, especially here.
#auddev #footballandmusic
Thu Apr 28 15:44:48 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63629745484599296 – #202
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@AudienceDevSpec Challenge
#4: How do we get the audience to become a part of our experience so it is theirs as well?
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 15:44:57 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63629786450366464 – #203
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@ericasipes @MazzaClarinet Yes, I think it does. And now I see many of those orchestra members at my performances too. 🙂
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 15:45:41 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63629967568814080 – #204
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@MazzaClarinet Join in in the discussion on
#classical music audience development! Follow the hashtag
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 15:45:52 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63630016768000001 – #205
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@AudienceDevSpec @samgrinsell I’ve actually seen some good ones out there.
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Thu Apr 28 15:45:58 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63630038951661568 – #206
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@ericasipes @samgrinsell Ah, a challenge, eh?!?
#auddev 😉
Thu Apr 28 15:46:04 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63630065954594817 – #207
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@samgrinsell @AudienceDevSpec
#auddev there’s going to be a performance at the proms this year where the audience choose the piece!
Thu Apr 28 15:46:14 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63630108996538368 – #208
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@ericasipes @AudienceDevSpec Good question. By building a connection and an openness, I think.
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 15:46:31 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63630180970803200 – #209
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@DaCapoInstitute Talk with them.. Never lecture them. RT @audiencedevspec: Challenge
#4: How we get the audience to become a part of experience
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 15:46:49 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63630255511977987 – #210
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@ericasipes @AudienceDevSpec What I’m discovering is that people like to feel a part of someone’s career & creativity.
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 15:46:54 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63630275996950529 – #211
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@AudienceDevSpec @ericasipes so how do we build a connection during the performance?
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Thu Apr 28 15:46:56 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63630284935020544 – #212
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@alanayu @AudienceDevSpec @MazzaClarinet I agree – classical players can appear stiff. Worse still, they don’t seem to enjoy themselves.
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Thu Apr 28 15:47:08 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63630332318072833 – #213
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@ericasipes @AudienceDevSpec So if we can give them ways 2 support us, even if that just means attending our concerts, they will often respond.
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Thu Apr 28 15:47:20 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63630382997843968 – #214
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@ericasipes @AudienceDevSpec And respond w/joy & enthusiasm. Many of them love 2 b cheerleaders!
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Thu Apr 28 15:47:43 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63630479408115712 – #215
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@AudienceDevSpec @ericasipes So I hear ways to support us. What about ways to support them?
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Thu Apr 28 15:47:51 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63630515009372162 – #216
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@samgrinsell @ericasipes @AudienceDevSpec
#auddev I might have spoken a little hastily. I’m not against a band or whatever at a sports event, but >
Thu Apr 28 15:48:01 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63630555752837120 – #217
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@adrenalsenorita @AudienceDevSpec
#auddev you have to think about what kind of community you want to have and what you have in common…
Thu Apr 28 15:48:02 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63630561540964352 – #218
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@ericasipes Ooo…I’d like 2 hear more about that! RT @AudienceDevSpec: @samgrinsell I’ve actually seen some good ones out there.
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 15:48:03 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63630563596177408 – #219
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@MaestrosLover So, without using chocolate as an incentive, how would you entice me to a classical concert?
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Thu Apr 28 15:48:11 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63630599184846849 – #220
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@ericasipes @samgrinsell I heard about that. Very interesting idea! Perhaps something 2 try in a small setting too.
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Thu Apr 28 15:48:31 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63630681439338496 – #221
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@AudienceDevSpec @ericasipes There was a concert that was scheduled during a big game, and the poor husbands were dragged by their wives…
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Thu Apr 28 15:49:02 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63630812997881857 – #222
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@samgrinsell @ericasipes @AudienceDevSpec
#auddev I don’t think it’s going to convert people. Any more than playing five-a-side before a concert would >
Thu Apr 28 15:49:03 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63630814822404096 – #223
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@ericasipes @AudienceDevSpec Talk, talk, talk. But no lecturing, like @DaCapoInstitute mentioned. Just b urself. Share who u are…
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 15:49:25 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63630909865332736 – #224
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@AudienceDevSpec @ericasipes then they started playing the concert and after the first piece, they broadcast the football game.
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 15:49:45 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63630991100612608 – #225
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@MazzaClarinet @ericasipes And that’s what it’s all about – moving away from over-emphasis on tech perfection and focus on communicating emotion
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 15:49:55 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63631035375681537 – #226
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@adrenalsenorita @AudienceDevSpec
#auddev for example, @antisocialmus wants to connect primarily to peers (20-30 somethings)= beer+laid-back atmosphere+fun
Thu Apr 28 15:49:58 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63631046062772224 – #227
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@ericasipes @AudienceDevSpec …not just who you are musically, but otherwise too. I often talk about being a mom…the women love that…
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Thu Apr 28 15:49:59 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63631050026389504 – #228
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@DaCapoInstitute @maestroslover Personal invitation and context for your life..
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 15:50:00 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63631055931965440 – #229
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@samgrinsell @ericasipes @AudienceDevSpec
#auddev would turn people to sport
Thu Apr 28 15:50:02 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63631064677101568 – #230
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@AudienceDevSpec @ericasipes it turned out to be a joint “concert” with part classical music and part football.
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 15:50:06 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63631081781473281 – #231
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@ericasipes @AudienceDevSpec …and can relate.
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Thu Apr 28 15:50:08 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63631088442023937 – #232
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@ericasipes @alanayu Ugh. Right. If a musician isn’t enjoying him/herself, blech. I don’t even care 2 perform w/folks like that.
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 15:50:38 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63631216108240896 – #233
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@AudienceDevSpec What does the audience need from us?
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 15:50:53 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63631278720823296 – #234
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@adrenalsenorita @AudienceDevSpec
#auddev other new music groups want to keep the values that the concert hall represents = tradition, sophistication, ritual
Thu Apr 28 15:51:02 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63631317534912512 – #235
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@ericasipes @AudienceDevSpec Not to sound corny, but I think giving them live music in a personal way is a big gift.
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 15:51:30 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63631432790192128 – #236
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@MazzaClarinet @audiencedevspec Creating community “events” – experiences – as opposed to recitals or concerts
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 15:51:50 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63631517745815552 – #237
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@ericasipes @AudienceDevSpec And again, giving them somewhat of a role 2 play as supporters.
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 15:51:59 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63631553430945793 – #238
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@AudienceDevSpec @adrenalsenorita good point! You need to define who you are to figure out the type of audience you want to attract.
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 15:52:32 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63631694829326336 – #239
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@ericasipes @AudienceDevSpec And getting into the community, performing outside the big venues and standard recital places.
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 15:52:35 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63631707559038976 – #240
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@adrenalsenorita @AudienceDevSpec How do we get the audience to become a part of our experience so it is theirs as well?= create intimacy
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 15:52:42 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63631735354687488 – #241
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@MazzaClarinet @audiencedevspec Visiting schools not to perform but to give primary kids hands on experience on different instruments
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 15:52:52 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63631778635718656 – #242
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@ericasipes @AudienceDevSpec Play in churches, play in restaurants, in hotels, wherever…
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 15:52:59 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63631804757839872 – #243
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@AudienceDevSpec @adrenalsenorita Like a “private” joke?
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 15:53:05 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63631832733855744 – #244
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@DaCapoInstitute @adrenalsenorita @AudienceDevSpec Its okay to be elite, just not elitist. Intention comes through the music.
#auddev #doesntMakeUsBetter
Thu Apr 28 15:53:07 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63631838631034880 – #245
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@samgrinsell @MaestrosLover
#auddev although using chocolate sounds like quite a good idea 😉
Thu Apr 28 15:53:44 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63631997049896961 – #246
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@ericasipes @AudienceDevSpec And although many may balk at this, 2 do a lot of this free, as a service 2 the community.
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 15:53:49 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63632016901537792 – #247
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@AudienceDevSpec We are getting towards the 5 min. mark. Are there any questions?
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Thu Apr 28 15:53:59 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63632058332880896 – #248
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@ericasipes I strongly believe that many will come eventually & pay for a ticket if we meet them halfway at some point.
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 15:54:15 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63632124179251200 – #249
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@adrenalsenorita @MaestrosLover beer! for examples, see Opera on Tap, Anti-Social Music, thingNY
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 15:54:19 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63632142562902016 – #250
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@MazzaClarinet @ericasipes Had a funny feeling that when we talked about this I wasn’t totally mad but no stats to back up intuition. Yay! Indeed
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 15:54:37 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63632218924392448 – #251
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@AudienceDevSpec To sum up so far: Connect with your community by giving and showing you care. Collaborate with others w/out being snobby.
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 15:55:01 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63632317943517184 – #252
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@DaCapoInstitute @ericasipes @AudienceDevSpec EXACTLY .. getting into community.. outside standard..
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Thu Apr 28 15:55:03 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63632324604080128 – #253
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@samgrinsell @ericasipes yes, seems more natural on a smaller scale. Will be interesting to see the logistics of it!
#auddev (forgot tag 1st time!)
Thu Apr 28 15:55:09 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63632350143193088 – #254
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@adrenalsenorita @samgrinsell
#auddev marching band + american football, pep band + basketball has worked for universities for years.
Thu Apr 28 15:55:14 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63632371618037760 – #255
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@AudienceDevSpec Show your passion and joy paid or not paid, and grab the chances to play whenever and wherever you get the opportunities.
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 15:55:42 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63632488249044993 – #256
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@ericasipes Phew. So many great tweets here at
#auddev . Trying 2 stay afloat 😉
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 15:56:02 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63632573712187392 – #257
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@AudienceDevSpec @ericasipes Meeting them half way instead of expecting them to come to us. Major point!
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 15:56:51 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63632781137297409 – #258
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@MazzaClarinet @samgrinsell Maybe that’s only because it hasn’t been done. Yet. And I’m not thinking about an a group of penguin suits
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 15:57:14 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63632873994977280 – #259
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@samgrinsell @adrenalsenorita
#auddev it’s a fair point, I tend not to consider it as it doesn’t happen in the uk. But I’d say it works BECAUSE it has >
Thu Apr 28 15:57:19 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63632897021722625 – #260
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@ericasipes @adrenalsenorita Yes. I love that!
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 15:57:20 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63632902444949505 – #261
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@AudienceDevSpec @adrenalsenorita good point. Music and sports do work together.
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 15:57:56 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63633050919124992 – #262
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@samgrinsell @adrenalsenorita
#auddev has always been used as is seen as a natural part of growing up, I don’t think it could be exported to people >
Thu Apr 28 15:58:03 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63633081151668224 – #263
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@AudienceDevSpec I want to take the time to thank @ericasipes for being our “speaker” on
#auddev chat.
Thu Apr 28 15:58:33 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63633207861575680 – #264
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@adrenalsenorita @AudienceDevSpec Like a “private” joke?
#auddev sure. also we often heckle each other and the audience. but people expect that from us.
Thu Apr 28 15:58:35 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63633217130995714 – #265
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@samgrinsell @adrenalsenorita
#auddev who weren’t use to the two worlds combining. So depends on age too
Thu Apr 28 15:58:40 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63633236185710592 – #266
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@ericasipes My pleasure! Thank u! RT @AudienceDevSpec: I want to take the time to thank @ericasipes for being our “speaker” on
#auddev chat.
Thu Apr 28 15:58:56 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63633303374282752 – #267
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@MaestrosLover @DaCapoInstitute …is thoughtful and kind and generous, but is not going to get me through the door…
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 15:59:10 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63633361163399168 – #268
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@ericasipes And thank everyone that was here on
#auddev. Lots of great ideas 🙂
Thu Apr 28 15:59:16 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63633386778001408 – #269
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@adrenalsenorita @AudienceDevSpec @ericasipes Play in churches, play in restaurants, in hotels, wherever…
#auddev punk clubs, rooftops, basements, kitchens
Thu Apr 28 15:59:21 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63633407413989377 – #270
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@AudienceDevSpec I think the most important point from
#auddev chat is the fact that we as indiv musicians need to get past ego and get out there to connect.
Thu Apr 28 16:00:23 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63633666554859522 – #271
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@samgrinsell #auddev much fun guys 🙂
Thu Apr 28 16:01:01 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63633828736012289 – #272
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@creativityassoc Welcome to
#artsed chat for this rainy Thursday. And, welcome to
#auddev chat. We’re going to discuss the role of arts orgs in
#artsed.
Thu Apr 28 16:01:02 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63633832578007040 – #273
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@AudienceDevSpec Playing for the joy, for the caring about our community, will reap benefits well beyond pay checks, and it will build audiences!
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 16:01:03 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63633838361948160 – #274
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@ericasipes Those too 😉 RT @adrenalsenorita: Play in churches, restaurants, hotels, wherever…
#auddev punk clubs, rooftops, basements, kitchens
Thu Apr 28 16:01:06 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63633850865160192 – #275
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@creativityassoc We hope that
#auddev chatters will stick around because
#artsed is such an important part of audience development now and in future.
Thu Apr 28 16:01:35 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63633970679656448 – #276
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@DaCapoInstitute @maestroslover honesty, authenticity, & relationship -everyone seeks. from rock bands to orch.. It is all about the experience 4
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 16:01:56 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63634058328023040 – #277
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@MazzaClarinet @samgrinsell @ericasipes Not “converting” but unless you exp. something how can you have an opinion
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 16:01:56 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63634058223165440 – #278
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@adrenalsenorita @AudienceDevSpec
#auddev “get past ego and get out there to connect.” the good news is that this IS happening left and right!
Thu Apr 28 16:02:30 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63634200305217536 – #279
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@AudienceDevSpec Thanks to; @samgrinsell @adrenalsenorita @MaestrosLover @MazzaClarinet @RbClassical @DaCapoInstitute @hollywoodlvwork for
#auddev chat!
Thu Apr 28 16:02:46 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63634270282977281 – #280
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@samgrinsell @MazzaClarinet
#auddev there’s also a huge difference in way sport is organised, music is much more part of the educational mainstream
Thu Apr 28 16:02:58 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63634320270696448 – #281
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@ericasipes @MaestrosLover I keep thinking about ur incentive question…
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 16:03:12 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63634376356933632 – #282
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@MaestrosLover @adrenalsenorita Is good but I can also get that at my local rock gig or sports match where I’d feel more like I fit in…
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 16:03:12 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63634376461787136 – #283
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@samgrinsell @MazzaClarinet
#auddev than sport is
Thu Apr 28 16:03:19 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63634407734509568 – #284
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@AudienceDevSpec I will be getting the transcript for
#auddev chat in case you missed this discussion.
Thu Apr 28 16:03:23 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63634423207309312 – #285
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@ericasipes @MaestrosLover I don’t know that I would try 2 entice u to a classical concert. That seems a bit fake 2 me personally.
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 16:03:51 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63634540492636160 – #286
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@AudienceDevSpec Also, if you want to co-host or host an
#auddev chat, please get in touch with me to set it up!
Thu Apr 28 16:03:53 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63634550533795841 – #287
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@ericasipes @MaestrosLover I guess I figure if ur curious and interested, u’ll check it out.
#auddev
Thu Apr 28 16:04:14 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63634637204889601 – #288
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@AudienceDevSpec @adrenalsenorita That is good news
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Thu Apr 28 16:04:19 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63634657018785794 – #289
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@creativityassoc If they are able to learn that language, they can make profound contributions to
#artsed in schools and build audiences.
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Thu Apr 28 16:04:31 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63634708143144961 – #290
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@adrenalsenorita @MaestrosLover buddy, you gotta meet us halfway, here! we classical folks go to rock gigs and sports events for beer too…
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Thu Apr 28 16:04:42 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63634753907200001 – #291
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@alanayu Musicians must reach out and engage more with audiences. Shorten the distance. Community events, town hall concerts, parks…
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Thu Apr 28 16:04:57 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63634816159072257 – #292
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@AudienceDevSpec @ericasipes Thank you, Erica! Great chat!
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Thu Apr 28 16:05:54 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63635055972597760 – #293
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@ericasipes Great! Thank u 🙂 RT @AudienceDevSpec: I will be getting the transcript for
#auddev chat in case you missed this discussion.
Thu Apr 28 16:06:05 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63635101275271168 – #294
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@MusickEd make more music-makers in all demographics = sell more instruments, more tickets, and more music = healthier profession
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Thu Apr 28 16:06:42 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63635258637168640 – #295
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@MaestrosLover @ericasipes Hmmm fake. Why would you think that?
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Thu Apr 28 16:07:04 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63635350597271552 – #296
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@samgrinsell @AudienceDevSpec @adrenalsenorita @MaestrosLover @MazzaClarinet @RbClassical @DaCapoInstitute @hollywoodlvwork thanks to u & all 🙂
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Thu Apr 28 16:08:12 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63635636724310016 – #297
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@AudienceDevSpec Feel free to keep
#auddev chatting. I’m heading to
#artsed for their chat on Arts orgs and arts ed.
Thu Apr 28 16:08:21 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63635675483873280 – #298
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@ericasipes @MaestrosLover Perhaps manipulative is a better word. Classical music appeals 2 people 4 so many different reasons…
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Thu Apr 28 16:08:31 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63635715317182464 – #299
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@adrenalsenorita @ericasipes @MaestrosLover
#auddev if you do it in the right way it works well. seriously: google & look at Opera on Tap’s track record
Thu Apr 28 16:09:01 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63635839485358080 – #300
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@MazzaClarinet @audiencedevspec And a huge standing ovation for you and @ericasipes for hosting
#auddev chat. Picked up loads of ideas – thanks!
Thu Apr 28 16:09:44 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63636021069348864 – #301
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@ericasipes @MaestrosLover …I will share with folks why I happen 2 enjoy it but I don’t have the attitude that people “should” listen to it.
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Thu Apr 28 16:10:35 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63636237466091520 – #302
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@ericasipes @adrenalsenorita Oh yes. I’ve looked into them a bit. Wish I could check it out in person tho I ‘m not a beer fan. 😉
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Thu Apr 28 16:11:15 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63636401509498881 – #303
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@MazzaClarinet @samgrinsell …IMO is one of the things that turns people off. You don’t need “education” to enjoy classical music
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Thu Apr 28 16:12:42 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63636767957467136 – #304
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@ericasipes @Pianist9591 Yes. I think in general, people like to see other people enjoying something 🙂 It can b addictive.
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Thu Apr 28 16:12:53 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63636813130121216 – #305
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@adrenalsenorita @ericasipes
#auddev geez, you don’t have to drink beer! that’s why god invented fruit juice.
#str8edgewelcometoo =) OOT is a ton of fun.
Thu Apr 28 16:14:06 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63637120409018370 – #306
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@samgrinsell @MazzaClarinet
#auddev actually I don’t necessarily disagree with that, but I’d make a similar point to what you said about sport: people >
Thu Apr 28 16:14:24 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63637197458386944 – #307
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@ericasipes @DaCapoInstitute Yes, I know that’s the general thinking. But I don’t completely agree w/it for myself.
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Thu Apr 28 16:15:13 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63637400773079040 – #308
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@samgrinsell @MazzaClarinet
#auddev it from education to avoid that, necessarily. Any method of bringing people in will turn some off
Thu Apr 28 16:16:37 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63637754520678400 – #309
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@ericasipes @Pianist9591 That’s true. I feel very fortunate that I’m not the sole bread-winner in the family so I’m able 2 give a little more.
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Thu Apr 28 16:16:41 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63637770245124096 – #310
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@AudienceDevSpec I know this sounds simplified, but maybe asking to have lunch could be a good starting point?
#auddev #artsed
Thu Apr 28 16:17:14 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63637907260444672 – #311
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@ericasipes @Pianist9591 I c it as a bit of my job in life 2 give a little more than other musicians might b able 2 for the good of the cause.
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Thu Apr 28 16:17:29 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63637973102628864 – #312
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@creativityassoc @AudienceDevSpec Sadly, the only time that principals or teachers can have lunch is during an authorized events. Trapped.
#auddev #artsed
Thu Apr 28 16:17:56 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63638083446382593 – #313
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@samgrinsell @MazzaClarinet
#auddev which is why we need lots of ways. I said I was too hasty in dismissing sport, tho I think some of my points stand 😉
Thu Apr 28 16:18:47 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63638299465613312 – #314
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@MaestrosLover @adrenalsenorita @ericasipes I can see how this would work& congratulations to whoever thought of it for looking outside the box 🙂
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Thu Apr 28 16:20:09 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63638642706481152 – #315
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@samgrinsell #auddev I’m just going to throw this out there: the best maintained cultural tradition in the UK is Shakespeare, and that’s forced on people
Thu Apr 28 16:20:55 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63638835996786688 – #316
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@samgrinsell #auddev could be a coincidence. By ‘best maintained’ I mean the vast majority people I know have a favourite Shakespeare play
Thu Apr 28 16:22:33 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63639248703725568 – #317
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@adrenalsenorita @samgrinsell
#auddev most people have a favorite food and a favorite color. naughty chefs and arts teachers for forcing such things upon us!
Thu Apr 28 16:24:05 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63639632201515008 – #318
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@MaestrosLover @AudienceDevSpec I don’t know about the ego bit, but I agree with the connect bit
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Thu Apr 28 16:24:22 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63639702493855744 – #319
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@AudienceDevSpec @MaestrosLover You would be surprised how ego stands in the way of connecting sometimes. It’s all about choices.
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Thu Apr 28 16:24:31 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63639740724936704 – #320
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@samgrinsell @adrenalsenorita
#auddev six year olds have favourite foods & colours, most people don’t have a favourite symphony
Thu Apr 28 16:25:58 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63640107206443009 – #321
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@MaestrosLover @adrenalsenorita …and to be fair, it’s not necessarily the opera but the ‘trappings’ that don’t attract me…
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Thu Apr 28 16:27:14 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63640426195861504 – #322
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@adrenalsenorita @samgrinsell
#auddev do they need to have a favorite symphony? (adults have fave foods & colors, even when they won’t admit it)
Thu Apr 28 16:27:25 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63640471825686528 – #323
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@samgrinsell @adrenalsenorita
#auddev I know English people who have no general interest in drama/the arts but have a fav. Shakespeare, that’s the point
Thu Apr 28 16:28:15 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63640681331167232 – #324
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@adrenalsenorita @MaestrosLover
#auddev but I bet somewhere out there is a classical music group that does have the “trappings” that do attract you.
Thu Apr 28 16:28:52 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63640838227505152 – #325
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@creativityassoc Mid-size arts orgs focused on creating/exhibiting art that
#artsed gets pushed aside and ignored. If they understood,
#artsed is
#auddev.
Thu Apr 28 16:29:09 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63640908075241472 – #326
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@adrenalsenorita @samgrinsell
#auddev so what’s the problem?
Thu Apr 28 16:29:20 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63640952480346112 – #327
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@creativityassoc Arts orgs can’t see
#artsed as a path to grants and funding. They need to understand significance of
#artsed on
#auddev. Train audience.
Thu Apr 28 16:30:21 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63641211591860224 – #328
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@adrenalsenorita @creativityassoc
#auddev is also
#artsed!
Thu Apr 28 16:30:33 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63641259151077376 – #329
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@samgrinsell @adrenalsenorita
#auddev there isn’t one, I was providing an example of a strong cultural tradition that’s all. Happens to be maintained >
Thu Apr 28 16:30:44 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63641305829490689 – #330
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@creativityassoc Exactly! I wish more folks got that. RT @adrenalsenorita: @creativityassoc
#auddev is also
#artsed!
Thu Apr 28 16:31:26 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63641484490055680 – #331
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@samgrinsell @adrenalsenorita
#auddev by making all British kids study Shakespeare when we’re 16… Was just a random thought, sorry if it seemed obtuse
Thu Apr 28 16:31:42 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63641547727581184 – #332
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@MaestrosLover mine was a genuine question, I’m not a fake or manipulative. I’m someone who is put off going to classical concerts …
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Thu Apr 28 16:42:33 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63644280647983106 – #333
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@MaestrosLover …because I feel I dont fit the ‘mould’ & am unsure of the ‘routine’, which makes me a little apprehensive at such events.
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Thu Apr 28 16:42:59 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63644388068302849 – #334
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@ClassicalRev This is exactly what we do at cafes. We should talk. RT @ericasipes: “They’re like chamber music jams”
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Thu Apr 28 16:54:30 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63647289469714432 – #335
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@ClassicalRev #auddev late to the chat, looks like I missed a lot of really good stuff!
Thu Apr 28 16:55:27 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63647526179442688 – #336
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@EmergeAlready Me, too! Sorry to not have gotten my 2cents in!RT @classicalrev:
#auddev late to the chat, looks like I missed a lot of really good stuff!
Thu Apr 28 17:04:07 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63649705762095105 – #337
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@adrenalsenorita @MaestrosLover you are not alone in feeling you don’t fit the mold! my classical musician peers feel the same way!
#tryingtochange #auddev
Thu Apr 28 17:35:40 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63657646493941760 – #339
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@sensibleflutist Busy week…can’t wait to read the
#auddev chat with @ericasipes! So sorry that I couldn’t participate live.
Thu Apr 28 18:02:15 +0000 2011 – tweet id 63664339017662464 – #340
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Audience Development Specialists Blog! 
I will be blogging a summary post soon!
So wish I was able to join in this conversation – how awesome it seems to have been!